Two 2021 All-Stars, two struggling heaters, two plates of dinner – an unpleasant conversation.

After a one-day game last week, the Mariners’ Adam Frasier and Jesse Winker went out for dinner. They don’t usually talk about baseball while eating together, but this time the topic seemed inevitable.

At one point during the meal, Frazier mentioned to Winker that they were both all-stars last year but are currently hitting the low of .200. According to Adam, Jesse paused for a second or two before answering, “Hey, tough game.”

Let’s be real for a second – the Mariners (29-39) have zoomed in on the bad past and are in a completely disaster area. They have lost seven of their last nine games, 33 of their last 51, and four of their last nine. Blowing is more to blame for their struggles than pitching, and if you’re looking for a pair of players who symbolize offensive frustration, they’re Frazier and Winker.

The above sentences are never pleasant to write. The two recent edits may be earning more than 7 million each year, but they are still rivals of pride and all other human emotions. Even so, owning one is still beyond the reach of the average person.

Frazier had a 4.1 fight in 155 games with the Padres and Pirates last season and a career high OPS of .836. This year, the second baseman has War -0.1 and career-low OPS .600.

Winker had a 2.7 fight in 110 games with the Reds last season and had a career high OPS of .949. This year, Outfielder’s battle is -0.5 and career-low OPS.626.

They are not No. Helping the Mariners – they’re hurting them completely. So on Saturday, I entered the clubhouse to find out their views on their shortcomings.

The first was Frazier, whose behavior was similar but the frustration was obvious.

“It simply came to our notice then. One or more of my months went by and then I found out, but I have never had a bad two and a half months, ”said Frazier, who is batting with a .227 .306 slugging percentage. “I had a great time in the spring, then the first two weeks of the season were kind of a hit and miss and then some hard luck came along and that’s when you started hitting.”

What do you think

“I do not know. He has to kill. You stay in the nice weather in Arizona, then you play in the snow for a few days and that makes it a little harder to stay where you want to be. But you go through it every year, “Frasier added. “Baseball is a difficult sport. You may be at the top of the world at one time and at another time you may be searching and you may not know what you are doing.

Next was Winker, who didn’t want to speak clearly. Can’t really blame him. Our (brief) conversation came after the first game of Saturday’s doubleheader, when he led the Angels to victory in the 10th inning.

“I’m not playing well and it’s as easy as it gets,” said Winker, who leads the American League with 42 runs but bats 209 and slugging.299. “I just want to find out.”

Expectations were certainly high. Can you talk about the level of frustration you feel and maybe what you expect from yourself? ” I asked somewhat strangely.

“Things don’t go well,” Winker replied, not slipping because of a mechanical problem. “It wasn’t what I expected, and it’s my job to find out why.”

It’s hard to believe that Mariners manager Scott Survey’s confidence in the two has waned. Winker did not start in both games on Saturday. Frazier did not start in the first game on Saturday or in a 4-0 defeat on Sunday. This happens when you have a negative battle and are ranked 142nd (Winker) and 147th (Frasier) in OPS, out of 158 eligible MLB players.

What’s going on, Scott?

“It simply came to our notice then. Their track record tells a story, and what we’re seeing this year says something completely different, which is relevant, “said Service. “Those two kids are coming into the season that we were putting a lot of weight on. They had to carry a large part of the offensive load. “

He continued.

“They have to make adjustments. One thing about this league is that if you have shortcomings in a particular area, in a particular type of pitch or part of a strike zone, you will be exposed. And I think with both kids, the teams are identifying specific areas or pitches that they’re fighting against and that’s why they’re flooding. ”

I don’t know how things will turn out for Frazier or Winker. I mean, things can’t get any worse, but we’re talking about a team that hasn’t had a playoff in 21 years.

One season ago, Frazier and Winker were playing at the All-Star level. I think at this point, the Mariners and their fans will settle for them just by playing at the Major-League level.